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Building Sustainable Success Beyond the 9-to-5 with Emily Hawkins

2025-08-20

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Guest Bio

Emily Hawkins is a Forbes-featured business transformation expert and founder of Leader Leadership, a trailblazing advisor who’s helped 2,500+ businesses and leaders redefine operations and unlock growth. After 15 years in corporate, she gambled on herself and never looked back—saving millions for clients and proving you don’t need fancy degrees, just curiosity and guts. Connect with Emily at emilyhawkins4u.com or follow her journey online.

Key Lessons From Episode

  • Leaving corporate safety requires courage, but betting on yourself brings true fulfillment.
  • You don't need everything figured out—starting scrappy and learning as you go is how entrepreneurs thrive.
  • It's okay to pivot; sometimes, making money means serving the market’s needs, not just your original plan.
  • Maximize the systems and tools you already have before chasing new shiny solutions.
  • Invest consistently in self-development—through silence, focus, and targeted learning.
  • Find your true audience; success often comes from offering your expertise to the people who truly need it.
  • Small actions, support, and adaptability are key ingredients in building a sustainable business.

Timestamps

[00:00] Introduction – Show kickoff and podcast overview by Phil Better and the Narrator.

[02:13] Guest Introduction – Phil introduces Emily Hawkins and her impressive background.

[03:26] Breaking Free from Corporate – Emily shares her decision to leave corporate life and what triggered her entrepreneurial journey.

[07:13] The Leap of Faith – Emily discusses her plan to transition, how her husband supported her, and the reality check of replacing a corporate salary.

[10:04] The First Year – Emily’s struggle to match her income and the pivotal bonus that made her leap possible.

[12:16] Facing Self-Doubt – Emily recounts the self-doubt she experienced on day one, the challenges of setting up her office, and her realization about figuring things out as an entrepreneur.

[15:20] Finding the Right Audience – Emily explains her initial missteps in targeting the wrong clients, her pivot, and how she discovered the value she truly brought to the table.

[17:30] Discovering Her Niche – The story of Emily’s Forbes feature, imposter syndrome in a mastermind group, and the “aha” moment that clarified her true client base and service offering.

[20:58] Operational Tools & Advice – Emily’s philosophy on using the tools you already have, the danger of shiny object syndrome, and her cost-saving guidance for growing businesses.

[24:19] Working with Blue Collar Businesses – Emily shares how blue collar businesses became her core clients through referrals and serendipitous encounters.

[29:00] Investing in Herself – Emily’s self-investment strategies, including silence, meditation, physical fitness, and ongoing education.

[31:37] Vision for the Future – Emily shares her passion for increasing small business success rates over the next 10 years.

[33:27] Advice for Her Younger Self – Emily’s impactful advice to her 10-year-old self about education, following her passions, and the real meaning of achievement.

[34:20] Connect with Emily – Details on how listeners can find and work with Emily Hawkins.

[35:56] Closing Remarks – Phil thanks Emily, highlights episode takeaways, and the Narrator encourages listeners to invest in themselves.

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